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crypto: (sarah looks ahead)
'And as for the “macho = homoerotic” thing, both in film and in general, well, let’s just chalk that up to the fact that at this moment in the history of our nation straight men have ceded everything but snarky T-shirts, Xbox 360, leet speek and the classic geek pear shape to the men of alternate sexualities. A good-looking man in text-free clothing, speaking about something other than the iPhone? Gay.'

  -- John Scalzi rescues a lost LJ post from the distant mists of 2007, presumably before the advent of the [NSFW] Guys with iPhones.

I'm going to tentatively claim this one (and the Slate piece purporting to explain "How macho movies get misread as homoerotic" that he's riffing off of) as further support for my theory that we're entering into a post-homoerotic landscape. It's one thing for straight men to protest that they don't see the supposed homoeroticism in, say, Point Blank or 300, or -- as the author of the Slate article does -- take pains to reject or refute a homoerotic subtext. Those are the familiar old-school moves, based on a classic contagion model of the homoerotic. And what are the traditional ways of dealing with contagion? Quarantine and isolation. Separate the healthy and the sick; minimize exposure risk; regard potential symptoms with a high index of suspicion; develop sensitive diagnostics and, ideally, vaccinations. Because everyone's potentially susceptible.

And that's why the Slate author comes across as either old-fashioned or juvenile. Dude, chill out! When you protest, in defense of straight men taking pleasure in narcissistic identification with the "hot, sweaty men" of 300, "Shouldn't a guy be able to do such a thing without being called gay?" -- you're fighting last century's battles (and over a film set in 480 B.C., no less). I certainly wouldn't say that nobody cares anymore, but let's face it, vast swaths of culture and society have moved on. Retro, unironic avowals of heterosexuality? Not hip, not hot. Sure, "no homo" still has currency, but also inevitably oscillates between "straightforward" ritual disclaimer and ironic performativity. (Conversely, people quite earnestly and sincerely profess that when they say, "That's so gay!" they really, really don't mean that kind of gay because they're totally cool with that stuff and homophobia is, like, so lame.)

These days, no self-respecting straight man would protest the homoerotic too much -- at least, not with a straight face. Over the last decade or so -- marked at its outset by the launch of Viagra, and culminating in the ascendancy of Judd Apatow -- straight men all over the country have embraced the possibilities of a masculine heterosexual insecurity all but completely decoupled from the 20th century spectre of contagious gayness and sexual orientation misattribution.

So nowadays, the fight has shifted to cultural status. These men have learned to relax and love the gay, but that doesn't necessarily mean they support same-sex marriage or gays in the military. When Scalzi cites "the present heterosexual male abdication of anything more culturally, emotionally and intellectually resonant than 'Dick in a Box'", do we mourn, celebrate, shrug, or roll our eyes? If the global economic meltdown is accelerating the Death of Macho, will sexual orientation as well as gender determine the respective winners and losers of this world-historical process? But hey, that's politics -- in the meantime, we can all go laugh together at Brüno, right?

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lo_rez: green-on-black classic radar circular grid (Default)
[personal profile] lo_rez wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2009 01:29 am (UTC)
No, no, please do extend continue the discussion in a new post! I hope you will!

The thing I have a question about is maybe encapsulated by my reaction to your earlier observation that you're not sure what the female corollary would be. Because my sense is that there wouldn't be one--not actually. Not one constructed by women negotiating their genderized sexuality in the way that you propose for men. That would be impossible, wouldn't it? Female sexuality and male sexuality aren't even remotely analogous, culturally speaking.

I guess what I'm reacting to is the persistent feeling that most discussions about the cultural work of (presumptively male) homophobia and homoeroticism start in the middle, leaving out the (again, male) constructions of femaleness and female sexuality without which they couldn't function.

I know you're not ignoring that--I don't recognize the source for your title, but it made me snicker. You put the iron in ironic with how strongly implicit it is here.
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
[personal profile] crypto wrote:
Jul. 16th, 2009 08:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I've been circling around -- I also don't think there is a female counterpart or parallel, and what does that say about the post-homoerotic scenario, what does that mean for women? But I haven't gotten further than an instinctive "nothing good."

(The title is a line from The Smiths' "The Queen Is Dead", by the way.)