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  • Jun. 15th, 2009 at 10:18 AM
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
Do you find yourself getting caught up in following an internet kerfuffle about something you know nothing about that you randomly stumbled across? To the point of forming opinions and mentally taking sides, even though the core issue remains impenetrable to you?

Apparently it all started when someone named Alex declared in Why I will never be clean again..., "With a heavy heart, and with very little jouissance.... 'I hate Badiou.'"

Now all I know about Badiou is that he's a trendy French philosopher, the latest in a long line of trendy French philosophers. Where 'trendy' means intellectually fashionable, though for all I know, he may also be a style icon, but that seems unlikely. I don't know anything about his ideas or writing; I looked him up some time ago when I first heard his name, and frankly it all seemed too dull to pay attention to. I am pretty sure that his first name is Alain, but I can't guarantee that since nobody involved in the current blog contretemps refers to him as anything but Badiou.

So Alex hates Badiou, and people react and respond, and apparently someone somewhere dismisses Alex' critique as fanboyism gone awry, according to k-punk in Fans, vampires, trolls, Masters:

This must be the work of disappointed fans, we are told. The implication here is double: the vicissitudes of fan-adoration have no relationship to proper philosophical discussion, and fan exasperation, the nihilation of the former idol, is somehow juvenile.

It's always other people who are 'fans': our own attachments, we like to pretend (to ourselves; others are unlikely to be convinced) have been arrived at by a properly judicious process and are not at all excessive. There's a peculiar shame involved in admitting that one is a fan, perhaps because it involves being caught out in a fantasy-identification. 'Maturity' insists that we remember with hostile distaste, gentle embarrassment or sympathetic condescenscion when we were first swept up by something - when, in the first flushes of devotion, we tried to copy the style, the tone; when, that is, we are drawn into the impossible quest of trying to become what the Other is it to us. This is the only kind of 'love' that has real philosophical implications, the passion capable of shaking us out of sensus communis. Smirking postmodernity images the fan as the sad geekish Trekkie, pathetically, fetishistically invested in what - all good sense knows - is embarrassing trivia.

Ah, but wait! Anodyne Lite intervenes in Sexuation and fandom: there are no girls on the internet:

In drawing out several current archetypes (which are mainly, but not exclusively, manifested online), K-punk ends up defending the virtues of fandom, qua the ability to really commit to something--to make that leap across the decisional abyss that is apparently very difficult for everyone these days--over the follies of the narcissistic Troll, the vicarious devotion-to-the-devoted that characterizes Grey Vampires, and the saint-like untouchability of their pious Masters, who have the distinction that comes with being renowned and successful. K-punk’s refusal to disavow his own fanhood only in order to appear more sophisticated/ironically detached, and his appeal to a less self-conscious, uncontrived manner of libidinal investment in commodities d'art, are certainly admirable. But because it has presented itself, I’d like to take this as an opportunity to, perhaps very foolishly, speak for females the world over when I say this: much of the disgust for fanboy culture can be reduced, at least in part, to a very real difference in the ways males and females are socialized to enjoy, and even further, identify with, what has for most of human history been largely the domain of men--the arts, philosophy, theory, and other immaterial labors not directly related to child-rearing or other domestic matters....

Fanboy culture tends to act as a leveling force that treats all objects of fandom as one would a sport or a game--with an emphasis on point-scoring, statistics, and obsessive cataloguing of memorabilia. Each “team” (artist, philosopher, comic brand) represents a power bloc, with each fan libidinally identifying with the successes and failures of their team of affinity--sports fans speak of their favorite team using the first-person plural pronoun, as “we.” (I can honestly say that as much as I’ve ever enjoyed, say, watching a Yankees game, I’ve never really felt I had direct access to the team’s joy in victory, or that sort of binding affinity and intense emotional investment many males seem to have in the team's fate.) As if this is not enough to disenfranchise most women, given the fact that phrases like “feminine pressure”--sometimes translated by ‘nuum fans as the tendency of women to prefer saccharine pop confections over more “serious”, weighty, conceptual music--persist in floating around, is it any small wonder that so many people (and, I've noticed, especially women) scoff at the fanboy phenomenon? Perhaps it would be useful to distinguish between fan culture and fanboy culture, here, but given my personal experiences I have a hard time doing so. (Somebody, help me out...)

And thus did the fanboy/fangirl debate arrive at the cutting edge of philosophy, which (fittingly?) is apparently going by the name of speculative realism these days.

I will give Alex the last word here, if only because his renunciation of Badiou could only be better if it had been published as an op-ed in The Onion:

What must be delineated is a kind of schizoanalysis, as Reid Kotlas of Planemonology has recently written, but one divested of crypto-morality, of positivity, reintegrated as a kind of metaterrorism of conspiratorial management, infection, contagion, and pestilence, a weaponised non-dialectical negativity wielded in the name of the highest value our times will admit to: Betrayal.

Hey Alex -- if this is your idea of the future of philosophy, I think 4chan got there first.

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sara: S (wank)
[personal profile] sara wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 05:47 pm (UTC)
*snerk* Nah, the French philosophers have been wanky for centuries.

But then, I came out of an undergraduate program where tales of Foucault screwing his way through the bathhouses of San Francisco were habitually told around the (not so proverbial) campfire. *GRIN*
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
[personal profile] crypto wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 06:00 pm (UTC)
I'd say that it's a mixed blessing that theorist RPF has never really taken off in media fandom.

*pauses to contemplate the prospect of wingfic!Foucault and rentboy!Derrida*
anatsuno: (Marvin McKay)
[personal profile] anatsuno wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 06:04 pm (UTC)
I.... think I'd hit read that.
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
[personal profile] crypto wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 06:35 pm (UTC)
And then you'd have to do the podfic version, of course.
anatsuno: a women reads, skeptically (drawing by Kate Beaton) (Default)
[personal profile] anatsuno wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 06:36 pm (UTC)
:D

Speaking of. Anything you'd want recorded? I seem to be in the right mood for it these days.
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
[personal profile] crypto wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 06:39 pm (UTC)
Thank you for asking! :D

Honestly, I've barely been reading anything lately, so no suggestions come to mind. I had a whole bunch of stuff that I'd meant to print out for reading on a train trip out of town tonight, and never got around to it.
sara: S (Default)
[personal profile] sara wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 07:09 pm (UTC)
Rentboy!Foucault would not be particularly fictional, let's just put it that way.
anatsuno: a women reads, skeptically (drawing by Kate Beaton) (Default)
[personal profile] anatsuno wrote:
Jun. 15th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
I'd think a Foucault holding court and keeping rentboys of his own would be more in character? But I haven't been looking closley yet, I admit. :D