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K/S, then and now: nature or nurture?

  • May. 13th, 2009 at 9:03 PM
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
I'd been idly speculating about how long I could keep my journal a Star Trek XI-free zone, sort of like when you see how long you can hold your breath. And then I saw [personal profile] laurashapiro 's post linking to an SF Chronicle piece celebrating not the slashiness but rather the bromance of Kirk and Spock, and it got me thinking.

Here's my question:

Did the new movie's Kirk and Spock simply inherit the original series' slashiness as part of Star Trek's DNA, so that they don't even need to generate their own subtext or UST and can just live off of the legacy of the original characters' aura, like the slash pairing version of a trust fund kid?

Or did Chris Pine's Kirk and Zachary Quinto's Spock go out and earn their slashiness the old-fashioned way, refusing to ride on the slashy coattails of Shatner & Nimoy?

Maybe a little of each? Or do you see the slashiness of Pine!Kirk and Quinto!Spock as different than that of Shatner!Kirk and Nimoy!Spock -- a K/S 2.0, maybe?

I'm asking because I can't tell -- I don't actually remember whether there was any dialogue, any moments, any lingering glances or "weird about each other"-ness between Kirk and Spock that an ST:TOS-naive baby slasher or proto-slasher would pick up on if they were discovering slash for the first time.

Though hey, who knows what goes on with kids these days! Maybe slashiness itself is just different now than it was 40 years ago?

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par_avion: collage of intl air mail stickers (Default)
[personal profile] par_avion wrote:
May. 14th, 2009 01:34 am (UTC)
I thought there was more chemistry between Kirk/McCoy (and even Kirk/Sulu) than Kirk/Spock in STXI. Kirk and Spock spend a lot of the movie apart from each other.

Although Spock Prime is *totally* being a Yenta: clearly he ships Spock/Kirk. I expect there will be more in the sequels?
crypto: Amy Pond (Default)
[personal profile] crypto wrote:
May. 14th, 2009 01:42 am (UTC)
Imagine the uproar in fandom if Kirk/McCoy turns out to be JJ Abrams' endgame!

I guess it's impossible to compare a single movie to dozens of episodes plus however many movies. And I haven't actually watched the original series since I saw it in reruns growing up, so I don't have a good baseline for K/S slashiness.
laurashapiro: a woman sits at a kitchen table reading a book, cup of tea in hand. Table has a sliced apple and teapot. A cat looks on. (Default)
[personal profile] laurashapiro wrote:
May. 14th, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
IAWTC.

Although I think the movie ended in a place where the chemistry was starting to be there, because the last few scenes showed body language and speech patterns that were so obviously nicked from TOS.

But for the majority of the movie, I didn't see K/S at all -- and I have to assume the relationship between Spock and Uhura, which has evidently been going on for some time and is seems meant to outlast the film, is part of that.