i would love to know the answer to these questions and will be watching the thread. i don't have the k/s cred to answer them myself.
i see the slash in trek new and old as subtext -- as a possible cloud of interpretation that is not really the main focus of the show. but that may be my approach to trek, which is not primarily as a slasher the way I am about TS or SG-1. there are so many legitimate approaches to canon.
i am soooo in "default to slash goggles mode", but I didn't see the K/S UST in the new movie. I saw it as POTENTIAL, that it could so develop the more they got to know each other.
but i agree with henry jenkins' post that this movie probably made a misstep when it neatly packaged spock's character straight up for us and destroyed all his mystery. but maybe we were ready for that; maybe after 40 years of spock we've plumbed his mystery, so having that all "cut to the chase" for us in the reboot was a foregone conclusion.
my main issue with the new movie is that pine's kirk verges on OMG TEEN SPEAK; he's not shatner's kirk and that is a GOOD THING, but he's so young, and young not in 1964 young but young in 2009 young (transmogrified to the 23rd century, of course.... the movie does NOT have a future vibe. it has a TODAY vibe. which is kind of a shame, but unavoidable, i think.)
pine almost made me wince once or twice but he backed off from the edge with the Young Guy vibe.
But his essential purity, his driven-ness, his arrogance, was all there. his fearlessness was what abrams focused on, which I think is so canon.
but i didn't immediately leap to slashing them.
i am fine with spock/uhura and want to know more about the possible canonical underpinnings of that choice.
but the spock/kirk in the reboot is going to have to be earned, for me.
but again: I'm not a true fan of this fandom. I've been on the edges of it all my life, but this movie made me not want to slash or write fanfic for it, but to explore the TOS fanfic back list. which is gimongous. I want to write classic trek today, myself. THAT Kirk/Spock, today.
thanks for the post.
i see the slash in trek new and old as subtext -- as a possible cloud of interpretation that is not really the main focus of the show. but that may be my approach to trek, which is not primarily as a slasher the way I am about TS or SG-1. there are so many legitimate approaches to canon.
i am soooo in "default to slash goggles mode", but I didn't see the K/S UST in the new movie. I saw it as POTENTIAL, that it could so develop the more they got to know each other.
but i agree with henry jenkins' post that this movie probably made a misstep when it neatly packaged spock's character straight up for us and destroyed all his mystery. but maybe we were ready for that; maybe after 40 years of spock we've plumbed his mystery, so having that all "cut to the chase" for us in the reboot was a foregone conclusion.
my main issue with the new movie is that pine's kirk verges on OMG TEEN SPEAK; he's not shatner's kirk and that is a GOOD THING, but he's so young, and young not in 1964 young but young in 2009 young (transmogrified to the 23rd century, of course.... the movie does NOT have a future vibe. it has a TODAY vibe. which is kind of a shame, but unavoidable, i think.)
pine almost made me wince once or twice but he backed off from the edge with the Young Guy vibe.
But his essential purity, his driven-ness, his arrogance, was all there. his fearlessness was what abrams focused on, which I think is so canon.
but i didn't immediately leap to slashing them.
i am fine with spock/uhura and want to know more about the possible canonical underpinnings of that choice.
but the spock/kirk in the reboot is going to have to be earned, for me.
but again: I'm not a true fan of this fandom. I've been on the edges of it all my life, but this movie made me not want to slash or write fanfic for it, but to explore the TOS fanfic back list. which is gimongous. I want to write classic trek today, myself. THAT Kirk/Spock, today.
thanks for the post.
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