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crypto ([personal profile] crypto) wrote2010-01-25 11:28 am
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OMG elitist!

So Jessica Valenti of Feministing is upset at mean-girl-turned-author Nina Power, who had some criticisms of Valenti's writing cited in a brief Guardian review of Power's book One Dimensional Woman. And Sady Doyle of Tiger Beatdown, joined by Amanda Hess, neither of whom apparently have read more than the Guardian review, decides that Valenti's response was right on except it was too polite and proceeds to mock Nina Power, who she seems to assume is a) old, and b) dour, and c) just jealous. As Doyle elaborates in the comments:

And the thing is – the continual thing about the damn book cover, the Feministing logo, the “unseriousness” of that one Guardian article, the need of some commenters here to devalue the fact that Feministing DOES cover issues related to class, disability, race, trans experience: to me, that’s just exactly what Valenti’s blog post was talking about. It’s the need to compensate for someone being more widely known than you are by telling yourself that you are More Serious, more of a Real Feminist, whatever. It’s the need to create a feminist elite, and to tell yourself that whoever is the easiest to like or to know about must be non-elite. It’s some indie hipster record-collector shit, but politicized, and it’s fucking stupid.

Um, right, that's exactly what this is about -- indie hipster record-collector shit, in the guise of an accessible vs. elitist faux debate.

I've been reading Tiger Beatdown for almost a year now, because it's smart and sharp and funny, but I think Doyle's on the wrong side of this one, to the extent that accepting the "Jessica Valenti vs. Nina Power / accessible vs. elitist" framework in the first place is the wrong side.

For me, Power herself comes off best of them all in her own blog post -- her blog infinite thought makes her seem pretty cool in general, even if she is big on Badiou (my lack of thoughts on Badiou) -- and reviews of her book like this one (which, surprise!, doesn't mention Valenti at all) make me think that her book's well worth reading. (See also this interview Power did with taz).
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[personal profile] violetisblue 2010-01-25 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this woman. *bookmarks Infinite Thought* I have no use for Feministing, but that was the case before NP ever deadpanned (most amusingly) at it.
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[personal profile] violetisblue 2010-01-25 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
STOP THAT, YOU

"...proceeds to mock Nina Power, who she seems to assume is a) old, and b) dour, and c) just jealous."

So much for one of the tenets of feminism being not to resort to attacking a woman's age and/or appearance, when you disagree with her. :-/
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-25 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
As an old, dour, jealous feminist, I resemble that remark!

(Actually, my aunt's and my favorite self-epithet is "grouchy left-wing crank," which is...kinda what I want on my tombstone.)
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-25 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, and I think "curmudgeonly" has a more masculine connotation. Although if men can bitch (and whoa, can they ever), perhaps women can curmudge.
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-25 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, after this morning's household hoo-bah and this afternoon's as-yet-unsuccessful attempt to upgrade the professionalstuff blog's back-end software, I am about to reclaim my proud heritage of slaughtering my enemies, dumping their bodies on my dungheap, and lighting their corpses on fire feminine curmudging.
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-25 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I have completely killed my main professional online presence! WOOT!

I think I have to wait until I get home from class tonight to break out the whiskey, but I am increasingly certain that there will be whiskey happening.
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[personal profile] vehemently 2010-01-27 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I will put my hand on my heart and describe myself as a female curmudgeon, every day of the week. And twice on Sundays! Matinee half-price!
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-27 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I know better than to argue with you about this. I do.
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[personal profile] vehemently 2010-01-27 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
This just proves that you know, deep down, that I am a curmudgeon. Ipso facto and considerable other incomprehensible Latin!
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-27 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hey now, that's hardly incomprehensible. I suffered through a solid year of prep-school Latin, and I have a Black's Law Dictionary downstairs.
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[personal profile] cofax7 2010-01-25 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Given your age relative to my own, I deny you the right to self-describe as "old".

"dour" you may have, if you insist.
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[personal profile] sara 2010-01-25 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*snicker* Yeah, you're so old. Old old old. Which I know because you whinge about your advancing years every time you kick my ass at some physical task.